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[edit] Source code management
So, I was wrong in thinking I could do what I wanted with only Javascript. You can't write to the server w/ Javascript, but it got me thinking, and there's no reason we can't use some cheap free webhosting service to host the site for now. I signed up for a FreeWebs account, and this way you can edit the files in the browser if you'd like so you don't even have to bother uploading anything. Account info follows:
To login go to: http://members.freewebs.com/
Go to "site manager" on the left menu to access the files, etc. "View my site" in the upper-right will take you to the hosted site.
I didn't look at how much space we're allotted but we should be okay as long as we don't save our images in lossless formats.
[edit] Discussions
[edit] Banner
New banner, as made by Eric can be seen here: http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions/
--Wylere 15:00, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I've uploaded the banner at http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions/banner.psd in case you guys want to look at it, change things, etc. I will warn that it's pretty unorganized.
--Fyffem 13:56, 21 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) First, major props to Eric for continuuing to hold the weight of the world. I both like and dislike the banner so, I will bring up all the pros and cons of it as I see them.
Pros:
1) Spotlights: Well done, they add a cool dual lighting effect on the image and give that sort of performance feel we were striving for. (In fact, if worst comes to worst, I think we'd have a cool banner with just the letters and the spotlights, though we could add a stage image or a cityscape to the banner if we felt it needed more action).
2) Company Name: The company name is well positioned, a good size and has a good coloring. It also gives that urban/club feel of the names on the sides of buildings at night time.
Cons:
1) Image's double size: On pages besides the home page, while it works perfectly with keeping the company name there, it looks weird having the heads of each of the people sort of sticking out. It might be better to manipulate the image so the people all fall below the company name, so that the home page has the picture of all of them and the inner pages is just the company name with the spot lights.
--Wylere 21:48, 21 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I agree, I wasn't sure how people would feel about that. The whole "just having heads" thing is a little odd, so maybe a separate banner should be made for other pages.
2) The image itself: This is something I'm divided on. As I look at it more and more, it grows on me, but parts of it are problematic. First, the guy in the middle isn't actually part of the team (a problem that goes in line with the picture I have on the roster page I know) and in the way the image is done, he almost looks like a random person who decided to jump in the picture with the team. Since the background of the image is eliminated you might be safe just erasing him (though that puts a funny hole in charley brown). What you might be able to do, and this is just an idea I'm throwing out there... delete the middle guy from the picture. Now, this will create a gap in the middle but here's what I'm thinking.. what if, the middle was the name of the company and the outskirts were the images of the people? So, as the page is resized, it would cut out the people?
--Wylere 21:48, 21 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Yeah, I wasn't really sure about how there were 6 people in that picture but only 5 on the team...but I just included everyone anyway. I like the idea of having the people around the words, and that would actually look really nice I think. I can play around with that, maybe have the full bodies next to the words on the main page, and then just have shots from the torso up next to it on the other pages?
I don't know, just an idea I was throwing out there. I might try cooking up some ideas later for it as I can flesh it out.
Overall: Well done Eric, I just might have to work on getting that first born out to you.
--Wylere 23:46, 24 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) If I understand correctly, people generally liked the banner, right (from the usability testing stuff)? So, if people like it, do you think we should change anything or just leave it as-is for now?
--Fyffem 09:44, 25 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I would keep the main banner as is, and then just change the second banner to just include the team's name and the spotlights if you can. Hopefully you still have the photoshop image so you can just erase the people part.
--Wylere 14:46, 25 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Yep, I still have it. The people-free banner is now up.
[edit] Sidebar-content equal height dilemma (resolved)
The adding of the javascript is a somewhat hack-ish way to do make the sidebar the same height as the content, but I've looked extensively online and the only other possibilities are doing fake backgrounds and other equally hack-ish things. Surprisingly, CSS has no good way of making equal-height columns. I swear, tables would make this soooo much simpler, why is everyone so against them? Maybe just use them for the sidebar/content? It would really simplify the code. Also (although this is easily fixed w/ more javascript), with the current method if the content section is shorter than the sidebar, the sidebar overflows into the footer area. What do you guys think? --Wylere 21:33, 12 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)
--Fyffem 14:01, 21 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)Issue resolved by copping out and using a table... Just adding for completionist reasons.
--Wylere 18:46, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) What he means is "issue resolved by using a table when it made sense and presented itself as the most effective method."
[edit] Navigation
The most current navigation is at http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions/
--Wylere 16:59, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I changed the navigation a little bit (mainly just the background), we can change it back if it isn't liked. Since the big header will change, the navigation can flow smoothly from the header as long as we make the backgrounds mesh. The changing of the CSS messed up the alignment of the navigation on some of the other pages, but that can be fixed pretty easily. I had to make a change that messed up the other pages a little because the way it was, when you resized it a few times larger the sidebar would whip over the right side and get all screwy. So we don't have to copy the navigation between all of the different pages all the time, I'm thinking that it would work best to just keep the most current navigation on the main page, and then when we're done w/ everything we can move it to all the other pages.
--Wylere 18:05, 20 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I made the text default to being whiter, so it's now gray to show the selected page.
--Wylere 15:14, 23 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) The footer is missing an apostrophe in "owners" and "Contents" is also capitalized. Matt, did you update that by copying and pasting to every page?
--Fyffem 17:15, 23 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Arghhh. Yea I did. I copied the footer from another site and simply pasted it on all of our pages. Alas, I guess I should have looked at it more thoroughly first.
--Wylere 18:11, 23 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Haha, it's cool, we can share the burden in class and do what we did for the navigation.
[edit] CSS
CSS at: http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions/page.css
--Jonesd4 00:33, 11 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) The content is next to the sidebar and the footer is on the bottom
--Fyffem 10:19, 12 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Added link formatting to the side bar, padded content, changed colors to clearly distinguish sections
--Fyffem 12:56, 12 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Added navigation bar on top of page, including a jpeg image that is resizable to push down the navigation. Just a temp image but it introduces some points of discussion. Do we want a generic gradient like I created, which allows the page to be resizable? Or do we want a cool hip-hop esque image of a fixed size that limits the page's size?
--Wylere 21:30, 12 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Removed the float and width properties of the content div (no longer needed), made it so the footer aligns correctly (before it was a few pixels too wide to the right).
--Wylere 08:16, 13 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Added formatting for "selected" id so that link to current page differs from others in nav menu.
--Fyffem 16:21, 14 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) We never saved our changes from class unfortunately. I tried to restore it as much as possible though. Also has stuff for my page (#roster)
--Wylere 14:39, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I did my best to get the CSS back to normal, I was goofing around w/ the colors so they are a little different. I tried to go with the black, white, and red colorscheme that Shaun said he wanted.
(note, to see the page with the image I added, go here http://www.rpi.edu/~fyffem/WWWWsp07/page.html
[edit] Roster Page HTML
Page at: http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions/roster.html
--Fyffem 17:19, 14 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) This was what I cooked up for the first design phase of the Roster page. It's still got a long way to be perfect but for our prototype, this is likely a rough idea of what it will look like. I thought it would be cool to put a large picture of the whole team at the top as a way to introduce the full roster. I was thinking of doing just a picture and then the person's name, thereby eliminating any trace of the bio on the main roster page, but figured, keeping the description would fit with our goal of helping to introduce them to the world.
Areas in major need of revision: For some reason, tables (all across are site) seem to try and center data vertically. Does anyone know how to eliminate that? A good example of this is the sidebar. Also, the borders around each person. I kept them as they serve well to distinguish between the people's bios but I wasn't sure if there was a better way to eliminate this (like say... just move the bio to the person's page).
- --Wylere 01:40, 15 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Table alignment is fixed (Needed a "vertical-align: top" property for all tds).
--Wylere 22:02, 15 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I added a "Full Roster" link to the main roster plage (roster.html) to maintain consistency w/ the other individual pages. It seems odd if it disappears/reappers when you leave the full roster page and go to individual pages and vice versa. I like the set up of the page, it looks nice to me.
--Fyffem 13:20, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I got better images for each person and also, my brother provided me with nice images for each of their names. Unfortunately, the images for the names won't let me make the white background transparent (can either of you get that to work on them?) and also, they are really LONG. I'm not sure what to do about that yet. What do you guys think? Should I put the name in regular text as was before and then just move the image to the individual page where it might fit nicer? I'm going to start writing bios tonight.
--Wylere 17:14, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I like the images for names. If we can definitively decide on a background color, then we can photoshop the white background to be the same color as the website background. PNGs are the only way to get transparency as far as I know, and, of course, Internet Explorer has bad support of PNG transparency, so we'd basically need to photoshop the background in.
--Fyffem 00:17, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Replaced the images with just headers for the names of each artist. May play around with using the images again and also with trying the more list-like structure Eric brought up tommorow. Once again, the purple links are shady... any better color ideaS?
--Wylere 00:45, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I think red links would look best to stay in cohesion with the color of links on the sidebar. Also, I personally see no reason to have the color be different depending on whether you've visited the link or not. I've found that I never use those colors, and I guess some people could but for the most part I find the differences in color unattractive. The only other option I can think of if we want to keep the different colors is red for unvisited, gray for visited.
--Fyffem 11:39, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) So I tried making it list-like as you mentioned Eric, unfortunately, it's not as bulletproof as the book describes it as being. I probably will make it more rigid so when you shrink the page, it doesn't explode. I wanted you to take a look at it first though and see what you thought. Peace out. (Also, I'll try and get more info out of my brother this weekend. The trouble is, our dog died of cancer on Friday so its hard to get much out of it. Still, gonna keep working)
--Wylere 14:07, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I like the current set up, it's good enough for our purposes. Sorry about your poochie :'(
[edit] Roster_Individual Page
Ah yea, to access individual pages, go to the main page and click on any artist. For a standard one: http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions/charleybrown.html
--Fyffem 15:34, 15 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) This is a preview of the individuals page. I'm not sure if it will stay this way. It depends on if a better idea can be cooked up, or how much information we have.
--Wylere 23:00, 15 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Looks good.
--Fyffem 13:20, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Updated with better/real image. Not quite the right size yet (will probably drop it about 150 pixels each way) but at least the real person.
--Fyffem 09:12, 19 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) So I've discovered we don't really have that much information on each person and now I'm at a loss as to what to do.
--Wylere 11:58, 19 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Hmmm...an interesting dilemma. Can you talk to your brother and get at least something? We don't have to have a ton of information about them, just enough to satisfy what people would want to read. We could probably write some overly dramatic bibliographies if you wanted it to be a little longer. For example, you could talk about Charley Brown's history and his other name before (don't remember what it was). That would be pretty interesting.
--Fyffem 13:01, 19 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)Aye, I'll have to see what my brother thinks (and ask him about getting us information for the history/services pages). The challenge is, most of them haven't been involved in hip-hop THAT long and so, I'm not sure what to write. Personal information would help elaborate it further but I guess it doesn't go well with hip-hop sites. I'm going to ask my brother though about what you mentioned and see if we can potentially include more detailed involvements about their involvement in music or even just about what hip-hop THEY like.
--Fyffem 00:19, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) How does the name look here? Should I make it white instead to fit with the color scheme of the rest of the text, or keep it red to stand out/fit with the surrounding elements. Is the text okay or would you rather a different font?
--Wylere 00:48, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) The font choices looks good, I'm not sure if I like the red. Like you said it doesn't really stand out, but I don't know if white would stand out either. If I had to choose though, I'd go with white to maintain cohesion with the rest of the text on the page. Right now the header appears unrelated to the text below when it's actually the main subject of it.
--Fyffem 10:42, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I see what you mean about the separation (going back to that lesson on proximity). So I placed the name in-between the image and the text, giving it a central positioning. I also put the grey and red text so you can decide if you think either goes better with the text.
--Wylere 14:08, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Definitely like the white text more.
[edit] Gallery Page
A prototype gallery page can be found at http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions/gallery.html. --Wylere 15:53, 15 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)
--Fyffem 19:25, 15 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Looks good. Try and add a piece for information about the picture to load as well.
--Wylere 22:14, 15 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Good call, it's added. I'm not sure what we want to do about alignment, in terms of centering or not centering the description, and whether we want a border around it or not. Feel free to change it to something you think looks better.
--Fyffem 13:24, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Not sure if its just my browser or what but there's a mysterious white square on the side of the page next to the image location. Just wanted to give the heads up.
--Wylere 14:42, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) That should be fixed now.
--Wylere 21:48, 17 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I uploaded all of the pictures. One question, is that one guy's name Imam Thug? I wasn't sure. The layout isn't perfect because when showing a lot of images the column of thumbnails gets really long, so that needs to be changed. Other than that, it should be pretty good.
--Fyffem 22:10, 17 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) some quick things. It's Mic Geronimo (two words), J Love (two words) and NeYo (capital Y). Other than that, nice job getting the photos up. And yep, as far as i understand, it's imam thug. Is there a way we can get the pictures to be contained in a scroll bar as seen on rocafellas site?
--Wylere 22:13, 17 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Okay, thanks. Good point about the scroll bar, that's an easy fix.
Correction, it's Ne-Yo. My bad
--Wylere 20:30, 18 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Okay, the scroll bar is in.
[edit] Projects Page
http://rpi.edu/~jonesd4/popoff/album.html I will put it in the freewebs.com site soon but I wanted you guys to check out the layout and see if you like it. I did not want to change the css we have now. So far the sidebar links work and all the pictures are up. My next goal is to make the images links. This is my question to you guys do you want a seperate window, a pop-up window like Deathrow, or same window? I also can not get that "<" out of some of the pages. If you see why its there please help me take that out. --Jonesd4 23:58, 15 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Okay, I made a sample album image page with Upstate Radio Vol. 1. You guys said you both hate to scroll, but the track listing is mad long. So a cure all could be to split it to 3 columns, I guess. If you have any ideas let me know. --Jonesd4 01:30, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)
I like it. The black background is cool, I think we should do that for the rest of the site. I have some ideas for visual stuff but I figure we should get content done first, since that's most important. I think a separate window (not pop-up) would be fine, the albums link in the navigation can easily be used to get back. The '<' is present because there is an extra '<' before the <td> tag after Heat Wave Vol. 2. As far as CSS, since the only CSS you'll be adding is CSS that is specific to the album page, it probably wouldn't make sense to add it to the main CSS document. What I've been doing is adding it in <style> tags for my pages, there's no reason to separate content from presentation if you don't need to reuse the rules for presentation elsewhere. --Wylere 06:57, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Aye, on the topic of changing the CSS, I always just throw my stuff into a div that is related just to my section. That way, you're not changing every page with it but it does keep it all in one nice consolidated area. Overall, the page looks good, definitely got everything we wanted down. The big question will be what to do with the specific album page. Since the track listings are so long, how do you guys think we should display them? Also, was that as big as the image could possibly be for the album-specific page? I think the size is right for the projects page but it might be better if we can do a larger image on the page dedicated to just the album. --Fyffem 09:52, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)
I think the scrolling is fine, there are a lot of tracks so, other than making the text really small, I don't see an easy way of displaying all of them w/o scrolling. --Wylere 09:55, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Also, to give you a heads up dan. For making images links, just put surround the image html code with the link code. Basically, instead of having a link name between the tags, you have the image tag. --Fyffem 13:21, 16 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)
Just a little update. All the projects have a link now so that means all the track listings are done. All that is need is the promotional info. --Jonesd4 14:44, 21 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)
[edit] Services Page
A prototype services page can be found here: http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions/services.html.
--Wylere 20:50, 17 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I may have not covered all of the services, those were the only ones I could remember. I wasn't sure what to call those-in-need-of-a-DJ, so right now I just have "party managers."
--Fyffem 22:08, 17 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)I would just call it DJ'ing... also, don't forget disc printing and recording in their studio. Another question for you is, do you think we should somehow incorporate an image into each service? I wasn't sure if it might add flavor to it. Like having say an image of a mixer for recording studios?
Ah well, just throwing ideas out there. Otherwise, it looks good. Simplistic, yet nice.
--Wylere 22:15, 17 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Yep, those are all good ideas which I can implement.
--Wylere 21:16, 18 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Okay, all that stuff is in. The images are just stubs, obviously. I'll look for some nice free ones.
--Wylere 21:50, 18 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I found some (free, uncopyrighted) images and put them up. That was a really good idea Matt, it looks really slick.
--Wylere 14:44, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I added some basic text. I'm not sure how much will change, so I kind of got bored as I kept going. The descriptions start getting kind of crazy around "recording" and just go downhill from there. If Shaun/Matt is unable to get us further info, I can put in values that look close to being correct for now.
--Fyffem 10:49, 23 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Beat stuff from the group's myspace page:
Credentials: Capone of CNN, Mic Geronimo, Jaz-O, Trife Da God and Tommy Whispers (Theodore Unit), Smif N Wesson, Intense, Cans, El Gant.
Equipment Used: MPC 2000, MPC 2000XL, MPC 2500, Roland XP-50, Audio Technica AT4040, Joe Meek 3Q Compressor, Mackie VLZ1402Pro, Yorkville YSM1 monitors, Hafler P1500 Trans-nova amplifier, AKG K271s headphones, M-Audio Delta 1010 Interface, Serato Scratch Live, Vestax PDX2000 Turntables (x2), Vestax PMC-05 Pro II Mixer, Pro-Tools M-Powered, Native Waves Diamond Plugins.
Additional Notes: Upon purchasing the beat, we will provide you with an audio CD and/or mp3. If you would like to receive a pro tools session with a tracked out version of the beat, there is a $15 surcharge.
--Wylere 15:13, 23 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Updated.
--Fyffem 18:38, 23 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I readded the section for artists and included the beats and mixtapes section in there as it can apply to them as well. While it adds redundancy to the page, it does nicely categorize the sections. Do you think we should keep the For **** in the list if it features redundancy or just reduce it to the sections?
--Wylere 18:55, 23 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I kind of like the For **** because it removes any ambiguity about the categorizations. If it just had "Artists", I might initially think that Pop-Off supplies artists or something similarly odd and incorrect.
--Fyffem 23:28, 23 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) O no, you misunderstood me Eric. I meant we get rid of the categorization all together and just make it generic topics (so it just says beats, mixtapes, disc printing... and doesn't assign it to a grouping). It's more of a debate thing than anything else. Honestly, I feel like it works either way but I wasn't sure if the redundancy by giving artists/producers similar choices caused any issues or confusion.
[edit] Home Page
A prototype home page can be found here: http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions
--Fyffem 13:26, 18 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) My views on it so far. It's not that great. I was trying to figure out what to put on their but really only Rocafella had even a decent homepage and it had just so much stuff on it. So I went simplistic. I feel like it's not terrible, the biggest challenge is that we haven't changed the outside background's color yet, so the whole screen sort of blends together. But anyways, the questions it has raised for me are:
1) How should news items be handled? Should they link to more indepth stories (even though there's not much beyond what the headline actually says). Should stories that refer to outside sources link to that source, creating some inconsistency since some link, others don't. Should we have the bullets or should they instead be pictures of the relevant person from the news (see rocafella for an example)?
--Wylere 21:22, 18 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I think inconsistency with links is fine, that's expected. Some stories might refer elsewhere while others will refer exclusively to Pop-Off stuff. I don't think it would be wise of us to leave out a link with more info for something like the sake of consistency. I'm not a fan of bullets, personally. I think they look tacky most of the time.
2) What should the DJ Services piece look like? Should it just be a quick mention that they're doing clubs now and link to services?
--Wylere 21:22, 18 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Yeah, that sounds good. I get the feeling that the homepage should have lots of interesting little blurbs that link to other places (if appropriate), not full length stories. Also, yeah, we need to get it out there what the company is doing, so I don't think it's being too repetitive to link to something else on the site.
3) Should we include any other information on the page?
--Wylere 21:22, 18 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I think just highlights, maybe an interesting picture, new albusm, news etc. is what would be most beneficial. Attention-grabber stuff, you know. Perhaps an animated disco ball (no I'm totally kidding, we're staying far and clear from animations!).
4) Should the two sides be in different color boxes? I was thinking about this but thought it would look funky. So instead, I made a sizeable space between the two to give them different entities.
--Wylere 21:22, 18 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) That's a cool idea, we'd have to play with the colors, but I think that would look good if implemented correctly. Maybe different shades of gray could be used, we'd have to experiment to tell for sure.
--Fyffem 23:20, 21 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) So I added a red border to the page. At first, I made it just for the content part but it looked really weird. So then I thought why not just make it span the whole page and do it on all of them. So I added that. In addition, I did a brief write-up for the DJ Services but it feels like it's missing something to me. I also tried boxes around the content but it made it really weird (I could only really do it if I do tables).
One more thing! I have the dj services centered. I didn't really want to do this but I couldn't figure out how to remove the margins on the list in news. If anyone can figure that out... let me know. And anyone have a good idea for used link colors? Purple just aint doing it for me.
--Wylere 00:50, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Red border looks very nice, good choice. As for used link colors, I think a gray-ish color would work best, obviously more light than dark since it would have to stand out above the background. As for the DJ thing, it's a nice blurb, I don't think it should have too much text. I changed the text slightly in terms of wording, but I didn't add/remove anything.
--Fyffem 10:41, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I don't really like having the dj services as just a blurb of text but I couldn't really think of any image to correlate with it. I changed link colors to grey throughout so maybe take a gander around and see if it's okay.
--Wylere 14:09, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) We're going to need to find a better color, I can't even tell that the links are a different color from the text on my monitor.
--Fyffem 14:17, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)That's reassuring because well... they're not :). Lol I just used the grey from the text since you said you wanted grey.
--Wylere 14:42, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Ohhhh haha okay, yeah, I meant a more different gray, if that even makes sense. I don't know, I guess just poke around and see what looks good. A maroon-ish color, maybe?
--Fyffem 17:49, 24 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) So I gave up on dealigning the news and instead, made dj services a list so they are the same alignment. I was thinking of going with a boxy layout for the front page but for some reason, every attempt I made at this exploded in my face. Any other ideas how to make it more aesthetically pleasing?
[edit] Project Info Page
http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions/upstate1info.html
I added that extra column to put promotional information. Personally, I would like the information centered within the cell, but I do not know how to do that. If you guys like it the way it is then it's fine with me. Another thing is should I add more information or should I just changed the information? --Jonesd4 13:38, 21 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)
[edit] History Page
http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions/history.html
The History page is now up for your enjoyment. Change what you need. I just put some text there for fun. My question to you guys since I always have them is what should the sidebar be? --Jonesd4 15:10, 21 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time)
--Wylere 21:52, 21 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I think what Matt mentioned about related and "friend's" sites would work for the sidebar. We kind of need to put something there, I feel. If the history is long enough and involved enough, maybe there could be subsections like "when we were young" and "the early days". Then we could have the sidebar links link to anchors on the history page like I did on the services page.
--Fyffem 22:35, 21 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) From glancing at it real quick, the banner is mysteriously below the navigation. Probably a quick fix of just copying it from the other pages. Other than that, I thought outside links to collaborators of the company would be good, as it might invite those companies to link back to pop-off and help boost their credibility. After looking at the page as designed, do you guys think we should do the history as a FAQ or as just a series of paragraphs? A faq might actually be kind of cool.
--Wylere 00:51, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) How about a combo of both a FAQ and traditional story-time type thing?
--Jonesd4 15:35, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I think a combination of the two is a good idea. I do not know how we would implement it, but I'm open to hear how so. As for the collaborators links who would that be?
--Fyffem 17:37, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) For now, just put a link to myspace.com/popoffproductions and we can see what my brother thinks later on.
--Fyffem 18:43, 23 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) Threw on the content and added a link to the myspace.
[edit] Contact Us Page
The contact us page can be found at: http://www.freewebs.com/popoffproductions/contactus.html
--Wylere 18:39, 22 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) That's about all I could think of to put up there...I'm not sure, is there anything specific you want me to put for location? I couldn't think of much that could go there since they don't really have an office.
--Fyffem 10:49, 23 April 2007 (Eastern Daylight Time) I added the mailing list
